Mary Thomas - In her own words.
I was born and raised
here in Salmon Arm. I guess my mother and father, they were born
down at the Neskonlith, that's in Chase area. When they started
farming the reservations, they were one of the first ones to
settle in the Salmon Arm area. I think it had quite a bit to
do with the abundance of food that was found in this area, as
well as the railroad track was coming in and they were needing
a lot of cord wood for lighting up the locomotives. So it was
kind of the old and the new way. You know they had to adjust
to the white man way of living.
Together with them, they brought his mother and father. . . and
they were the grandparents that we grew up with. Prior to that,
our people used to roam quite a bit. We were nomadic. The Shuswap
people were nomadic. They travelled to where food was plenty
and gathered for winter, winter use. But when they started forming
the reserves, the government put us on the Indian reserves, they
had to change their whole lifestyle. You had to adopt the new
way of life by clearing land and plowing and planting the different
types of food that was not a part of our culture. They were forced
to do that.
So my mother and father were so busy, doing what they had to
do to survive that our grandparents took over. And I have such
loving memories of my grandparents. We did a lot of things together,
like they maintained a lot of their natural foods yet.
We really enjoyed things our grandmother did.
First of all our grandmother lived in a little log cabin. At
night we all slept at one corner, like at one end of the log
cabin. The nicest thing I can remember was us laying around by
our grandmother and she'd massage us. Then she would tell us
the legends that had lessons to it, what you're supposed to do
and what not to do. It was so nice. It was so full of love. And
the many things that we did, it was all game to us. We used to
play quite a bit. When we would go down to the river to gather
rope hemp, it was very light. She'd bundle them and she'd tell
us, 'you pack it over and put it in this one big pile.' And we
did it as a game and we pretended that we were horses. Everything
was a game. It was so happy . . .
But there came a time when our whole life system changed. . .
. Our family units were like a big circle, just the way we were
treated as children - the mothers and fathers, the aunts and
uncles, the grandparents, the cousins. We were all on the outside
of that circle. In the middle was the little ones, and each one
of them had the responsibility to help those little ones become
a part of the outer circle. And that builds the families really
strong. . .
I guess that whole issue broke when they took us away from our
families and put us into the residential school. And I have memories,
I have scars, and I have lived through a whole lifetime of, I
guess, pain, frustration, low self-esteem, because of my connection
with the residential school.
I can remember when we were living on reserve, our grandmother,
grandparents, our parents, they used to tell us ' if you see
a. . . white man coming, run and hide.' Because there was terrible
stories about what happened to the women. You know. Contact.
Where women were molested by these non-Native guys. One woman
even had her baby on her back and they knocked her down and raped
her and her baby suffocated. Those stories, they would talk about,
and we were deathly scared of non-Native.
So when we went to the school, we didn't know what was happening.
Nobody told us what was going to happen. When we walked in that
school, all we seen was this nun coming down the hallway, all
in black and just her face showing. We were terrified. It was
so scary.
Then, right away, we were told we were not allowed to speak our
language. We had to forget about our language. And we were told,
never to practice, not to believe, the spirituality of our people.
It was taboo. 'Never believe it. It's the work of the devil.'
And every morning, we would get up at five o'clock in the morning
- perfect silence. We couldn't speak a word. If you were caught,
you were strapped. And we filed into the chapel by 6:30. We were
in the chapel. And every morning was mass. And the priest there
would pound the alter rail about our people were savages. And
you know, when a little child is growing up, knowing, that's
all you know, you begin to wonder what is happening. We began
to get confused. We loved our mother and father. We loved our
grandparents, and what we were told is that they are the ones
that were carrying the work of the devil. It gets you so mixed
up.
I didn't know what a sin was. And yet we used to go to confession
and make up things just so we could confess something. It's just
so negative.
And when I came out of that school, I really wanted to become
like the white people. I didn't want to go back to the reserve.
I was really confused.
And we couldn't go beyond the age of 16, cause we were told when
we reached the age of 16, you're automatically dismissed. We
had very little reading or writing. It was mostly domestic work.
. . . When I turned 16, and I came home, I was a very rebellious
woman. I felt that if my mother and father loved me enough, they
wouldn't allowed me to go an experience all that pain and frustration.
And then I hated the white people because of what they represented.
Always dominating you. 'Do what we tell you do. Never question
us.' You never questioned a white person.
I lived with that for many years and I was a very, very hateful
person. I was carrying a lot of pain, a lot of low self-esteem.
And yet, I guess, all the time, I could hear the Elders talking
about different things that they did. Somehow that registered.
I was accumulating all that knowledge. And I always attribute
that for the love I had down deep. I had a real love for my grandparents
and my parents. But I didn't know how to show it. I didn't know
how to go about adjusting my life to that.
So, I used to think, if my parents didn't love me, somebody will
learn to love me for who I am. When I turned 19. . . at that
time there were fixed marriages. I rebelled.
"No way. Nobody's going to choose my husband. So I took
my own way and I got married. We moved down the States. And that
time the war broke out, Second World War. We came back to Canada
and my husband enlisted like all the rest of the Native boys.
They all voluntarily enlisted. And I always attribute the residential
school and the Second World War as the two episodes in our lives
that really did the biggest damage. Prior to that, you never
heard of our people drinking. There was no drinking on the reserves.
. .
I believe that the Second World War, when our men came back,
they were changed people. They were drinking really heavy. And
when they came back they kept on drinking.
And by that time, the government said, 'we'll let the Indians
go in the beer parlor.' So it was pushing us over the brink.
There was a lot of child neglect, wife abuse. It was just terrible.
And I went through that whole ordeal. My life was so miserable.
I have memories of times when my husband would come home and
beat me black and blue. I didn't drink. I stayed home and looked
after my children. . . and other people's children. . . . I guess
as time went, I got really sick of it. And I'm so full of anger,
full of hate. Finally, my husband, drinking in town, I guess
he had a bottle and he walked on the railroad tracks and the
train hit him. And I blamed myself. . . you know earlier, before
he left, he was on the verge of beating me up again. . . And
that day, I ran away. I couldn't take the beating anymore. I
ran away and hid. It's the day he walked into town and that evening
he got himself killed. And I thought, 'gee, if I had stayed and
taken the beating, he wouldn't have died.' And I blamed myself.
And that made it worse. I became a very, very, bitter woman.
And about five years after he died, I guess, I felt lost. I had
a big family. I was really, really scared. And at that time there
was no such a thing as welfare. I didn't know who to turn to.
Five years after he died, I met a man that offered to take me
away from the reserve. Kids and all. I still had nine of them
going to school. I don't know how we survived out there. But
I had to get away. . .
My youngest one, Bonnie. She said 'You know Mom, they're talking
about the Indian culture in the school.' And right away I thought,
'Well, what the hell for.'
She said, 'I know Grandma has a few things here. You think you
could bring it up and show it to the kids?'
I said, 'forget it. I don't want no part of that.' And she kept
after and after me, and finally I broke down and I said 'OK.'
Just to get her off my back I gathered baskets and that sash
and the shawl and a few other things my mother had. I took it
up to the school, and when they started asking me questions.
I couldn't even answer them because I didn't know. I felt really
stupid.
Well, in the meantime, the curator of the museum in Kelowna gave
me a job, asked me if I'd work with her. And I didn't even question
what kind of work, as long as I was getting the money . . . So,
I said ' Sure, I need a job. I'll take it.' And I said, 'What
is the job?' And she said, 'The provincial government is wanting
cultural input in the schools and we have applied for money to
put together a school kit and we want you to help us.'
I said, "A cultural thing? What the heck. I don't know nothing
about it.'
And she said, 'I'll tell you what we'll do. We'll write out a
list of questions and we want you to go to the Elders and get
the answers for them.' And this is where I got my start.
Luckily I can speak my language perfect. I started going back
to the Elders and I started talking to them. And I could feel
this real exciting feeling within me, like there was something
trapped in there that wanted to be released. And it just had
me so confused for a long time. And I travelled a lot around
to different reserves, and meeting with the Elders I didn't realize
that I was changing. I was beginning my healing journey. And
the more I learned about the culture and the things that could
be made like the bull rush mat weaving, the basket-making, the
moccasin making, tanning deer hides, everything I learned I had
to do it.
My life was changing so rapidly. And when it came to the spirituality,
I began to question spirituality with the people. It was part
of our research. I couldn't believe what I was hearing, that
there is a salvation, there is a healing in the sweat lodge.
There's so many different things that I learned, and you know
the more I learned about my culture, the values and the philosophy
of the culture, it started to change me. I began to change and
that's what I call my journey to healing.
the women's sweat - Mary Thomas
I can
remember our grandmother, she'd build this great big fire, and
put the rocks under the heat for our sweat. And there wasn't
one word spoken while they were doing it. They'd all sit around
the fire and it was explained to me later, when you're going
to go to the sweat, you're overloaded with pain- physically,
mentally, socially - and you're going in there to purify yourself.
And you do a lot of meditations.
When we sat around we didn't understand as children, but as I
got older I began to realize what it was all about.
Each one of us had to have four little bundles of fir bows, the
soft ends of the fir bows. There's certain about of oil in it,
of healing oil. And we each had those four little bundles and
we were told to sit around and be with the Elders. . .
Grandma used to say, 'watch that fire, how it's eating up the
wood. It's purifying it. That's the beginning of your purification.
You'll look at it and say, I'm hurting. I'm carrying a lot of
weight and I want you fire to take it and burn it.' And we were
to meditate on it.
When we were ready to go into the sweatlodge, we took with it
those four little bundles of fir bows, the tips of the fir bows.
It was tied up in little bundles. We carried it in there with
us and there was perfect silence. It was all like a prayer, meditation,
it's you. And our grandmother would say, ' We're going in there.
You are going to pray for yourself. Going to unload all that
. . . '
If you're sick, you can't help anybody. You've got to heal first.
They would explain this to us, you know as we were growing up.
So we would follow everything they would do, we would watch them
do it and we'd get in behind.
And, you know how children are sometimes, my granny had this
tarp, big heavy tarp over her sweatlodge. My God, it would get
hot in there. And, as children, we used to get into mischief,
my sister and I we would slowly lift the tarp up and we'd stick
our heads out and wrap it around, to get some fresh air, and
they'd see us and [ ] on our behind and tell us to get back in.
And we'd get back in. We had to bear it. But they taught us if
you can't breath put a towel or something over your face and
then you can breath. . .
And they told us, when the heat hits your body, it opens the
pours and you breath it in and it will help cleanse. There were
time we vomited. . .the heat would make us vomit, and she would
say it's all right. 'Good let it go.'
And they would always have a pot of that Indian tea. If we didn't
have the Indian tea, they'd have rose hip or rose bush. And we'd
take a big drink out of that before we would go in the sweatlodge..
. . up it would come to cleanse your stomach, and that was part
of the way to do our sweatlodge.
Before we'd go out and take one of those little bundles and rub
ourselves all over. We rubbed ourselves and the little needles
would stick to our body. And our grandmother would say, 'when
you go out of the sweatlodge, you talk to the water. Water is
powerful. Get in that water, and you talk to the water as you
wash the needles off . . . .
[You say] 'Wash everything inside of me, cleanse my body and
let the bad things drift.' And that's part of our cleansing.
And then we'd sit around the fire again and they put some more
rocks and she would say, 'Next time we go in, we pray, in here
[ ] for your families, that we bring our circle back and heal
our circle. And always remember your bloodline. Pray that we
form our circle.'
And we would do that, again. And when we were ready to go out
and rub ourselves with those fir bow.
The third time we come in, she would tell us, that we're praying
for our communities, our brothers and sisters out there. We pray
for them that we become healed again and become strong. And we
did the same thing, we rubbed ourselves.
And the fourth time is when my granny used to sing. That was
to heal mother earth. . . . and always our sweatlodge, the door
opened to the sunrise. And our granny would sing to the four
directions to heal mother earth, to the birds, to the animals,
to the fish, the little creatures, the plants, she'd pray for
them. And she would sing her song. I still remember that song.
It's really hard for me. I get really emotional when I sing it.
. .
Mary Thomas sings her grandmother's song.
That used to be so wonderful. When you come out of there, you
feel you've left a whole load of garbage behind you. . .
And my son Lewis has his own little sweat lodge. And he always
comes and tells me, darned that bear again. He's got one of those
tradtional ones that is covered with sod, but he puts a tarp
over the front. Every time he goes up to sweat, no tarp. The
bear drags it up the trail, way the heck and gone. He says 'I'm
gonna have to look for it.'
And he's got a little spring hole where he dips to have a bath.
And he has a little pot that he dips and the bear will take that
and . .. I tell him, well, that's your guardian . . . and I told
him it's just reminding you, don't go to sleep . . . .
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